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PS5

Sony’s PlayStation 5 plans could include blazing-fast 3D stacked RAM

Warning: the following article contains intense speculations which may or may not anger the fanboy/girl within you.

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It’s a little early, give or take five years, to be predicting what RAM will be inside the PlayStation 5. But one site says it could be ultra-fast ReRAM, otherwise knowns as RRAM, resistive RAM or most interestingly, 3D stacked RAM. Insiderp speculates that Sony will team up with chip-makers Micron to add RRAM to the quite-obviously-will-be-made-one-day PlayStation 5. The PS4 uses 8GB GDDR5 as well as 256MB DDR3 RAM for background tasks.

The source site says a whole lot more about Microsoft, Sony, and the end of the console wars.

According to them, it expects Sony share prices to eventually rocket to 50 (it’s currently on 17.42), for the PS4 to expand into China and India (where the latter is priced at over US$1700) over the next decade and for the PS3 to discontinue production with 1-2 years.

With the PS3 discontinued, Sony could essentially give these factories over to Micron so that it could create the PS5’s RRAM with the last-generation CELL fabricators. The site also says how this could produce a knock-back effect, creating cheaper RAM and in turn, allowing Sony to pour more money into the production of  next-generation GPUs and CPUs. Insiderp reckons that the PS5 will release within the next 5 years, which is a fairly good guess, considering that the gap between PS3 and PS4 was six years.

Crazily, the site says that Microsoft may leave gaming altogether (this is pure speculation), allowing for the shorter release date between Sony consoles. The site ends with a 100-million lifetime sales prediction for the PS4, barring “some massive economic or political disaster”.

Here’s what we say: Sony is most definitely on a winning streak and has outsold the Xbox One 3-1, but that most certainly does not mean that Microsoft will give up on the Xbox One anytime soon. With the Xbox One dropping to the same price as the PS4 — both are now US$400 — we may see both consoles evening out in sales. The rest of Insiderp’s speculations seem fairly prescient, and Monday mornings are the best time to ponder on the future.

Image: manoftaste via Flickr


  • extermin8or2

    Xbox isn’t going anywhere worst case MS sell it off and someone else is running it but it’s still xbox brand. However the sony RRam suggestion is a sound one and is certainly an interesting idea factories wise that would make them alot of money if it worked (could sell RRam to other companies too, one thing is certain PS5 is coming and likely in 2018 or 2019 oh and there were about 8 ears ps3-ps4. 6 years from ps1-ps2 and ps2 to ps3 however.

  • colonel179

    I believe that PS4 will last 6 or 7 years, but definitely not 5 and also no more than 7.

  • Har har har

    PC will use RRAM first just like GDDR5, others will follow the step. So PC will always win in specs department.

  • Har har har

    PC will use RRAM first just like GDDR5, others will follow the step. So PC will always win in specs department.

  • fred

    to early for what ps5 will or wont have

  • Dale

    ****BREAKING NEWS****

    PS5 ‘Could’ also feature a 125 core 98Ghz intel i12 CPU with New Nvidia Super Titan XT!

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    “as well as 256MB DDR3 RAM for background tasks.”

    When in San Hell did this ever get announced or even discovered? I never knew this until now.

  • extermin8or2

    Ps4 is approaching sales of 10 million. Sony have clumped sales together in financial reports since forever because investors don’t give a toss which sells more just aslong as there’s a profit made. Which btw the PlayStation division did make-a decent profit although I can’t remember how much it was for q1 fy2014. So please don’t talk crap. Ms made a loss in their xbox division of 500 million but overall made a profit I believe and at this stage half a year after a new console launch its expected for a loss to be being made. Ps4 has best sales of a console ever period and xbox one had second best launch of a console ever, granted it’s sales haven’t kept as much momentum as the ps4 but they still aren’t terrible. Also your point about pc is unnecessary and pointless any technology commercially available is supported by pc aslong as you are willing to pay the price it costs. Thing is the number of games using the advantages of the tech will be small until it reaches mainstream adoption and is therefore cheaper to use part of my point about the factories thing being a good idea is because Sony would make money selling the ram to pc manufacturers, rival console makers and such. Also no matter how bad songs financials may have been they are pretty secure-they run insurance company and a bank etc in Japan which a) deals in debts and debts owed are worth more than most assists generally and b) the Japanese government would not let.that go down it’d be disastrous for their economy and as such they would bail Sony out and insist on the ditching of tv and such which are unprofitable and which Sony is already spinning off-SCE is one of their most profitable sectors.

  • Guest

    It’ll never even last 5. The console’s specs are piss poor compared to a good PC now already.

  • pterois

    In another 2-3 years at the most we’ll start hearing about PS5, with a release in the next 4 years.

  • Guest

    Correct, PC will always win and that’s another MS department. The PS4 already has p*ss poor specs compared to a good gaming PC these days. It’s hilarious that there are already 9+ million suckers that bought a PoS4.

  • YOUDIEMOFO
  • http://www.gearburn.com/ Steven Norris

    To battle!

  • Jewy McJew

    Only 125? You lack optimism regarding humanity’s future! :)

  • YOUDIEMOFO

    But of course this gives you something to do with yourself…., so you should be thankful.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    never read that article in my entire life. Somehow I missed it.

  • YOUDIEMOFO

    There are quite a few that blew up right after the system released. Do a google search for PS4 co-processor 256mb ram and there should be a couple more like the one I had a link to. They’re all pretty much the same not much more to discuss other than a picture and what it is….

    This was the deciding point on whether I would buy the system or not when I was debating a preorder.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    and you have it right now I presume? I plan to get one myself

  • http://E-mpire.com/ Omnistalgic

    They are restructuring and should be a healthy company again in 2015-2016 fiscal year.

    MS as a whole is a much bigger financial juggernaut, lol, they are not struggling, and they aren’t going anywhere, but might not see the gaming industry as worth there time if Sony gobbles most of the profits.

  • demfax

    Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred and get mental help. You are sick in the head and constantly lie to fuel your mentally ill hatred of a piece of plastic. Sad.

    All 3 consoles have good games and have their pluses and minuses. It’s only fanboys mindlessly trashing one or the other. It’s not healthy to hate pieces of plastic and people who like playing video games on them.

  • http://E-mpire.com/ Omnistalgic

    But visually speaking, when will it be outdated? It doesn’t matter how high you can spec your PC if only a fraction of the games library are even supported the tech. PS4’s graphics will likely be the standard for a few years and only a couple titles will even use the higher spec of a traditional PC. Consoles are always inferior to PC, just because PS4 started off a little bit less exotic and cutting edge than PS3 doesn’t mean the gen will be drastically shorter. ND/SSM/PD/EPIC/GG and other studios have consistently demonstrated amazing graphics with closed-hardware.

  • demfax

    Sony announced 7 million PS4s sold to consumers by April 6 2014. PS4 is almost at 10 million sales to consumers by now.

    Sony is on its way to recovering from years of losses and recently posted a quarterly profit as almost all of their divisions were profitable.

    It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that ignorant microsoft fanboy shills are left desperately wishing Sony would go bankrupt. Keep dreaming, it’s not happening. Sony’s games division is making a profit and is well funded. Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred and get help.

    Sony has total assets worth US$148.893 billion dollars. It is still one of the largest corporations on the planet, ranked 233 in The World’s Biggest Public Companies on Forbes.

    It seems most console gamers are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway. Sorry.

    Some people want a console not a PC, and if they want the more powerful console they’re getting a PS4.

  • demfax

    Wrong.

  • demfax

    It will because the console market is not the PC market.

    Of course you’re too autistic and stupid to understand why some people prefer consoles in the first place.

  • pterois

    No it’s not.

  • ImOnaDrugCalledSheen

    Whatever Sony does Microsoft will come up short and then spend the entire generation, much like this one, backpedaling and making excuses.

  • http://www.xboxonedaily.com/ TheRedButterfly

    An article that discusses nothing but the suspected PS5’s possible features, and author still manages to find a way to state that MS is selling off Xbox/they’re leaving the industry for good?

    I’m getting tired of this crap…

  • DarthDiggler

    @nintendofan4lif3:disqus

    That is the onboard background system memory, it’s discreet just for background tasks and the dashboard I believe.

  • DarthDiggler

    LOL that image is so stupid LOL ) I say this as a PS4 owner and fan. :)

  • YOUDIEMOFO

    Yessir day one standing in best buy.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    I plan to get that and Xbox One next month or by the holidays

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    Oh ok. If so, then how much of the 8 GB RAM is reserved for the OS like 3?

  • Dr. NEGA

    PS5 spec, AMD secret weapon……….hybrid ARM CORE/Legacy x86= 8 core ARM64 and 4 core AMD64=32 threads ARM CORE power +8 threads legacy x86 power for compatibility
    AMD R12 Next Gen OpenGL5, Orbis 2.0, stacked RRAM 8GB+4GB, Next Gen SONY Media format 1TB discs

  • blowjoe

    apparently you missed out that only 1/3 of steam users can play games in 1080P. furthermore, no PC has a pool 8GB of GDDR5 with almost instantaneous r/w between GPU and CPU. The ps4 has a lot of power that is yet to be unlocked…. the xbox one on the other hand is severely underpowered.

  • Dr. NEGA

    Wrong you sucker, the developers titans like EA, Ubisoft, Sega, SONY, and activison would not like have thier games downloaded from torrents sites thats what all PC games have been downloaded so far…but with ARM cpus all the games would be pointless to release on PC also…WHO WOULD MAKE GAMES ON Dying old intel architect power hungry cpu’s than on more efficient ARM64 CORE and will prove that 32 threads can kill intel any next cpu’s because its not RISC processor like GPU’s are ??

  • PachterStation

    By the time the PS4 gets going with enough quality games, it’ll be PS5 talk. Same case with the Xbox One. Won’t be long now for Nintendo’s next console. Will it launch before the PS5 and Xbox Two? Probably. Next console battle will probably be a re-run of this generation. Unless Nintendo and Microsoft come up with a handful of surprised, their next consoles are doomed. But this generation, I don’t think it’ll get enough AAA games, more so from the Wii U. At the moment, the PS4 and Xbox One are all talk and very little action.

  • datdude

    I think you meant to say that image is so awesome. You’re welcome for the correction.

  • Lionheart

    It’s $0N¥ PauperStation desperation at its finest.

  • Guest

    Ow boy, you made the ultimate loser at life $0N¥ pauper cry again. Good show.

  • d0x360

    Isn’t speculation fun!? why stop at an nvidia super ttitan? That only has 2 GPU cores. You gotta think next gen man. Go with the nvidia deus ex XT. Thats a quad GPU beast with 1TB of embedded gddr6 video memory. It will also ship with a limitless capacity holodrive from Hitachi which you might think is just for storage but that also contains 15 powervr2 chipsets for full backwards compatibility with Dreamcast with super upsampling to 12k resolution.

  • d0x360

    What is this source site? Why is there no link so they not only get credit but also so we can see what else they are making up…speculating about?

  • BigStupidJellyFish

    Kaz Hirai FTW!

  • Russell Gorell

    I see you constantly posting this. You are one little, angry manlet.

    Go run into traffic and die.

  • Smile

    Insider look at some of the upcoming PS5s specs

    Crew Interface Software: LCARS 2.3
    Circuitry: Bio-Neural Gel
    Access Time: 48,000,000,000 kilo quads/nanosecond
    Number of dedicated modules: 2,048
    Capacity/Module: 636,960,000,000,000 pedaquads

    Simultaneous access to 48 million data channels
    Transluminal processing at over 975 sextillion calculations per nanosecond
    Operational temperature margins from 10 to 1,790 Kelvin’s
    Negative Polarity Hydrogen-based Ionised Liquid Plasma Coolant System

  • TheChosen

    too long ;) Make it shorter => more intelligent than a human brain. Sony will built it in PS5, PS5 will take over world and make humans (aka sonyfans only xD) their slaves. => End of story – mankind and all sonyfans will ge wiped from earth- destroyed through their own “tech”.

  • TheChosen

    Don`t talk bullshit right out of your ass, Pachter. Everyone know you are a failure in history ;) I wouldn`t expect Nintendos next console before 2017/2018. Handheld will come sooner of course. How embarassing one person can be. Hahahaha! Look at your picture! Failure of history! Its also funny, how you said 3DS will fail, Wii will fail, no one would buy that etc…crazy huh? How comes, all those things sold much better than you predicted?

  • TheChosen

    You do know that ARM is not compatible (OS wise) with X86, do you? ;) YOu cannot run a X86-OS on an Arm- and you cannot run an ARM-os like its done on ARM on a X86-cpu. Also those optical media with 1 TB doesn`t even exist, lol. The most which can be done now is 300 GB/disc. And that is optimum and will come out in a few years.
    Hell, even SD-cards are getting much faster bigger in capacity- than pathetic bluray or even optical discs. Next step for SD-cards: 512 GB! And than 1024 GB, yes 1 TB. You can allready buy 256 GB SD-Cards.

  • TheChosen

    3.5 GB. Come on, its everywhere. And the 256 MB of DDR3-ram is solely there for recording-feature. Thats it. PS4 does not have a OS-cpu like WiiU has it. PS4 only has its 8-core AMD cpu, which has to handle even standby-mode as the OS itself cannot be run on the small Arm-singlecore cpu the PS4 is using for this kind of things.

  • klo

    Believe it or not, but microsoft already sold the xdone division to Amazon. It would raise hell if they released that info right now. The hint was revealed a few days ago where Amazon announced they are selling the xbone for much much less in europe. Nobody does that

  • TheChosen

    the point is- PS4 cannot use it in standby-mode thats why Sony itself did not mention it- its too slow for anything. Can only be used while gaming- for things like recording you a video etc. Is not even clocked @ 1 Ghz. OS cannot run on it.

  • TheChosen

    You know that- the more cpu-cores you get- the more expensive the coding for the games will be- do you? Also don`t forget- yes, ARM is more efficient as its the more modern tech- but- you need many more small/tiny arm-cores then you would need when using just X86-cores. But yes, AMD Jaguar is only 3.1 mm² in space, so yes, AMD is also very small here and thats why AMD Jaguar is too slow for things like Watchdogs.

  • Russell Gorall

    I knew this was a fake account when I saw such hatred flowing.

  • mjk45

    actually it’s 2gig ddr2 the 256 MB is flash ram

  • mjk45

    meant 2gig ddr3 and 256 MB flash ram

  • Matt

    Who knows what will be in consoles in 5-10 years… Virtual reality headsets might sweep the market by that time.

    …Or we could be living in a post-nuclear apocalypse fighting over monopoly and scrabble boards.

  • Gemini

    The PS5 is better off be release in 2019 or 2020, or something.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    I was just trying to clarify if that fact had changed when then that information had been discovered then that’s all I already have all that shit you mentioned down packed. But thanks for the recap.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    I see

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    Oh ok

  • Har har har

    Sony is struggling financially worse than MS. Sony combine PS4 sales
    figure with PS3 sales figure in financial reports. No one knows exactly
    the sales figure of PS4, Check Sony’s financial charts from 2013-2014,
    you’ll see how the PS4 sales have been failed to make positive impact
    for Sony financially, even at higher market and attach rate than X1.

    Downward recovery:
    money.cnn.com/quote/chart/chart.html?symb=SNE

    BTW PC will be getting RRAM tech first (just like GDDR5), others may follow the
    step. So PC will always be winning in specs department.

  • Dr. NEGA

    yes it can with the linux and freebsd kernel, try running on NT ???
    No you cant because limitations of windows os …

    or else why would AMD anounce hybrid processors for ???

  • kstuffs

    What does “almost instantaneous r/w” between GPU and CPU really mean? I think you are referring to latency. Instantaneous = 1 cycle. Almost instantaneous would imply something like <= 2 cycles. Where did you get these numbers? The BW between CPU & GPU is about 20 GB/s although this information is kept secrete by Sony.

    http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/154924-secrets-of-the-ps4-heavily-modified-radeon-supercharged-apu-design/2

  • kstuffs

    I suppose having that much asset allows them to Sony when they need the case. Also note from the same website the Profit rank is 591th with about $8B in cash. They bled $1.26B as of Mar 2014. How much more money can they lose before having to sell more assets?

  • sampson3121

    DICK!

  • demfax

    Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred and get mental help. You are sick in the head and constantly lie to fuel your mentally ill hatred of a piece of plastic. Sad.

    Sony announced 7 million PS4s sold to consumers by April 6 2014. PS4 is almost at 10 million sales to consumers by now.

    Sony is on its way to recovering from years of losses and recently posted a quarterly profit as almost all of their divisions were profitable.

    It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that ignorant microsoft fanboy shills are left desperately wishing Sony would go bankrupt. Keep dreaming, it’s not happening. Sony’s games division is making a profit and is well funded. Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred and get help.

    Sony has total assets worth US$148.893 billion dollars. It is still one of the largest corporations on the planet, ranked 233 in The World’s Biggest Public Companies on Forbes.

  • demfax

    Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit.

    Last quarter they reported a profit, and almost all divisions were profitable, so far so good. Expect a much smaller yearly loss than a billion this FY.

  • demfax

    Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred and get mental help. You are sick in the head and constantly lie to fuel your mentally ill hatred of a piece of plastic. Sad.

  • demfax

    Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred and get mental help. You are sick in the head and constantly lie to fuel your mentally ill hatred of a piece of plastic. Sad.

    All 3 consoles have good games and have their pluses and minuses. It’s only fanboys mindlessly trashing one or the other. It’s not healthy to hate pieces of plastic and people who like playing video games on them.

  • demfax

    All you do is spread hatred and lies.

  • demfax

    This is what the article actually said “but that most certainly does not mean that Microsoft will give up on the Xbox One anytime soon. With the Xbox One dropping to the same price as the PS4 — both are now US$400 — we may see both consoles evening out in sales.”

    You are reading things that don’t exist.

  • http://www.xboxonedaily.com/ TheRedButterfly

    Crazily, the site says that Microsoft may leave gaming altogether

    You’re excluding things that take away from your (imaginary) point.

  • demfax

    They are talking about what the “insiderp” source website said, the article writers themselves did not say that.

  • http://www.xboxonedaily.com/ TheRedButterfly

    They still included it. If you’ve taken any higher-level language courses, you’d know that that sentence would’ve been omitted from the final draft, as it has NOTHING to do with the entire rest of the article.

  • Stickz

    funny thing is. Xbox division lost like 400 million million while playstation division was profitable. their ps division is their most succesfull one atm so bitch plz. You fail at trolling stop trying

  • ShoNuff

    I heard Sony is filing for bankruptcy and is going to be selling off all of their divisions to pay off their debt.